Sick river Hero call NL10 Zoom with 44

Posted 4 years ago

Hi Guys,

Not one to do this usually but want to brag about this sick hero call I made here,

In the past I would have folded 100% of the time here, assuming I was behind, but I was on my read today and just knew that this guy's line looked like a missed draw. I'll explain why...

I call pre for set mining purposes only, no other reason. Then when I miss I C/R him to try and fold him off of any mediocre hand he has. When he doesn't raise me I think a turn barrel might get the job done. So when he calls calls I think now I might be beat, so I just check back the river hoping for a showdown. But when he leads sooo big on the river it makes me re-consider. It just doesn't seem like a value bet. Here's why I think that;

I have c/r him on flop and then lead the turn, so I am displaying a great deal of strength, if he had a monster it would make more sense for him to value raise me there, as I probably call - (he doesn't know I only have 44 I am repping much stronger). Also, why bet so big if it's for value. I looked back at the board, the passive calling, then suddenly leading just seemed to make sense that he had something that completely whiffed he was trying to steal it with a big bet. Two clubs, or maybe floating the flop and turn with junk / AK, KQ etc

At the time I didn't consider that the 3 made his straight, I completely overlooked that possibility...but replaying it I still think he bets smaller if that was the case...

I know I took a huge chance, and I am not looking for props for my strategy, just happy because in the past I have folded here out of fear, even when I think I am ahead...

Jmyji

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Posted 4 years ago
Nice. Always great feeling when you read the board perfectly Smile Could you post the hand for us to see?
Posted 4 years ago
Whoops the boom link was supposed to be in there, sorry!

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/14738833_6BAAE3DD44
Posted 4 years ago
very nice, his range consists of sets and missed draws. I can't see overs or a jack playing like that.
Posted 4 years ago*
In the past I would have folded 100% of the time here, assuming I was behind



That's 100% the right play in the longterm, when you decide to x/r this hand you are deffo overbluffing here! You got sooo much hands that can continue on this flop: AJ/KJ/QJ/22/55/66-TT and assuming you dont always 3bet JJs, like 50% of the combos of JJs



Then when I miss I C/R him to try and fold him off of any mediocre hand he has. When he doesn't raise me I think a turn barrel might get the job done.



Why xr? You got so much better hands to call with.. OK.. folding mediocre hands? he's opening UTG, given it's 10NL I'll put him on a roughly 15% range that crushes you..

Given it's a Jxxss board you can peel one if you want and re-evaluating turn.. But when you xr and he calls, what you gonna do? 'A turn barrel might get the job done' Why you think that? it actually gets better for his broadway hands and if he calls with 88s he's not folding turn anyways..



So when he calls calls I think now I might be beat, so I just check back the river hoping for a showdown. But when he leads sooo big on the river it makes me re-consider. It just doesn't seem like a value bet.


You should think that you are beat.. his SDv will xb that's true but he's got still all the OP's sets and TPs in his range, keep in mind you xr and he CALLS which downgrades his ''mediocre hands' a loooooot


Also his size is completely std tbh



Not trying to be smart-ass that wants to kick your ass our something, only want you to realize that this play is -EV in the longrun and DON'T level so much on 10NL, villains on 10NL DON'T think they only check their cards and see what they've got tbh Smile


Posted 4 years ago
Don't think that at all, appreciate any advice...thanks!

I'm basically ignoring my cards on the flop and turn and repping much stronger, like a flopped set or if I had flatted an over pair as a slow play. This should scare him if he has any two random big cards, even pairs. That's what I mean by a turn bet might get the job done,

When he calls turn, like I say, I think I am beat by something that is just gonna get checked back. But when he leads I just can't believe it's a value bet. He can only be trying to push me off the pot...

I'm repping super strong on the flop and turn. So if he has a big hand why not raise me on turn, he must think I am coming along. The only reason he flats turn is if he is pot controlling. And why lead the river if he has SDV? His bet narrows his range more towards total air...

If the flush had completed I snap fold, but missed draws and 2 missed over cards are a big part of his range on this run out ..That's how I see it anyway.

Very read dependent...not making that play again in a thousand hands...and fully ready to accept I read it all wrong but that was my thought process.
Posted 4 years ago
It's just funny how you state you rep super strong hands, but when he continues and flats your xr and continue ott and you X and he shoves.. 'his bet narrows his range more towards total air' that's super contradictive... OFCOURSE the Flushdraw missed, but that's like a small portion of his continue-ing range.. try atleast to think in combos...

if he had AAs it's suuuuuuuper std to just flat your xr and turnbet and not to go fullretard and shove over the top lol




I just really hope for you this is one in 10k hands you'll do this because you are overbluffing here given positions and just throwing ranges out of the window ALSO it was just sooooo unnecesary, but I guess you highfived all your buddies with your call that ain't bad Smile
Posted 4 years ago
Really great that his play worked out!

But I'm thinking in the long run it may have been better for you that you were beat on the river so you are not encouraged to do the same thing again. The hand is likely pretty -EV overall here. No good reason to x/r the flop here and no good reason to x/r the turn.

Even with the current river sizing the guy can still show up with AJ and overpairs at this limit. He can totally have some busted draws in his range but many guys don't bluff frequently enough at these limits for a profitable check/call.
Posted 4 years ago
You got balls that is for sure! I did a similar call the other day with 55, but i remembered two hands he played yesterday and that what was made the call, memory is your co-op player! Play video games to enhance it Smile

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