Posted 6 years ago
If it's as brutal as w34z4l's destruction of me it'll be an awesome watch! Definitley looking out for these, he's 'a bit good' isn't he.

Have fun sir. Cool
Posted 6 years ago
Pwll: If it's as brutal as w34z4l's destruction of me it'll be an awesome watch! Definitley looking out for these, he's 'a bit good' isn't he.

Have fun sir. B)


Oh this makes that look like a pillow fight
Posted 6 years ago
To be fair my fiance, did ask if I was sure you wouldn't be offended, but I though honesty was the best policy
Posted 6 years ago
Is part one up somewhere?
Posted 6 years ago
Yo

Part 1



and I am currently replying to all of it on the video page Here
Posted 6 years ago
Did you software crashes everyday in a middle of a hand like mine? It's really frustating lose money this way
Posted 6 years ago
If hldm is the cadilac of Poker PLO is F1. Super charged to the max and very very technical. The thing with PLO is how you view equity, everyone sort of knows that sims are just all in either preflop or whatever street you run it but since there is 4cards in play in your opponents hand you will start to notice that some hands in various spots just feels freakisly uncomfortable to play. Playability in relation to SPR in any given situation is key in PLO. What types of hands push equity pre vs what range and then looses equity street by street = need more money in pre to have less bets post etc. Since you will see way more flops turns and rivers, and as you no dubt know the pot is pretty big on the river makes later street misstakes a big leak. Usually the problem on the river is avoided by forseeing it preflop. For example AAxx you either want a SPR lower than 1 on the flop to just auto show all but the worst boards or you want a super high (cheap flop) to try to overset someone that plays lower pairs. The worst is to 3b say 10-20% of your stack and give severe implied odds to the caller. KQJTds rundowns etc play really bad vs normal 3b ranges and dont push equity preflop so you want to have bets left postflop as the hand picks up equity on a lot of flops.

A good way to win at PLO is to stay away from the grey zone which due to the closeness in raw equities you will end up there all the more frequently. Compouding the problem in PLO is the fact that players at micros have very different views of the game (duh) some really really just nut peddle and can x-back what was top set on the flop when an overcard comes and just x-call turn. I've personally won a full stack with A high playing all streets to the river and the only reason I see the opponent calling his Q high hand was that he didnt know/forgot the rules of using 2 cards. Was kind of fun!


And what you really dont want is to know that you are pretty much f*cked when the money goes in since it is really hard to be crushed due to having 4 cards meaning that you wont find the reverse spot to often either to compensate. Like in a 3b pot you dont want to stack of with a J high flushdraw as your only way of winning since when it is covered you have almost no equity left.


Posted 6 years ago
....so that was a sick 1st post and some food for thought there for sure. Looking at the video I think some very obvious leaks are

- Addicted to double suited hands
- Play to much oop
- Gamble to hard
- Try FPS
- Play none nutted draws to often

fair?
Posted 6 years ago
Jon-PokerVIP: ....so that was a sick 1st post and some food for thought there for sure. Looking at the video I think some very obvious leaks are

- Addicted to double suited hands
- Play to much oop
- Gamble to hard
- Try FPS
- Play none nutted draws to often

fair?


Why thank you, might as well do it proper if your going to do it!

Yep that sums it up quite good. What I find odd about many that transition to PLO is how they view handstrength, a hand like 3455ds is still just a pair of fives and pretty much nut low suits with almost only mexcian straight potential, baring ultra low SPR's you are almost guaranteed to be dominated if anything more than one bet goes into the pot. Me I didnt play much hldm before I got into PLO but given that any 4card unpaired hand flops a something at least 60% of the time the only thing 3455ds is going to do is pick up a small uncontested pot or loose a big contested pot. Its a hand you play for balance and not value if that makes sense. Like calling a 3b with it even IP is stupid, its like calling 23o in hldm on the btn to an utg open.

A 4 card hand has 6 combos a 3card hand with a dangler has 3 combos = 50% less value (sure it can flop trips etc so not really 50% but close enough) and if you start weighing in suits the value between seemingly smilar hands can become very different when you face a lot of heat. Such as shipping a 13 wrap in 3b pot vs shipping a 13 wrap plus a pair, when you have the pair vs the same 13 wrap you freeroll him so good its crazy.

Also since it is pot limit you cant just ship your set of fives on the flop either but have to fight through no mans land to the river when they start to call. And at the micros calling is something they love more than anything!


Playing none nutted draws in six max is unavoidable, the key is recognising situations where it matters more and when it matters less and play accordingly.



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Posted 6 years ago
Got quite a game going on here

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Posted 6 years ago
LEGO

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Posted 6 years ago
Not today buddy

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Posted 6 years ago
Yay or nay?

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Posted 6 years ago
Standard?

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Posted 6 years ago
probably fold and throw up
Posted 6 years ago
good God those games are loose
Posted 6 years ago
Jon-PokerVIP: Yay or nay?

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@hedonhiney

How can we fold with this spr?

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Posted 6 years ago
That is equity vs. his whole range, but he isn't shoving 100% of his hands. Add to that PTT range his shoving range, and then it's easy to see if hero has equity vs. that.
Posted 6 years ago
@Kyyberi Yeah that's the wrong graph, my bad.

What I wanted to point out is this - we can stack off ~95% boards and this clearly isn't even close to bottom 5%.
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As for hand, vs very tight shove range we can get this in with profit.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong
Posted 6 years ago
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So the range I have given villain is a fair bit tighter, and from experience of seeing coaching students hands in very similar spots, I feel it's reasonable to conclude that at lower stakes, as a population this spot is not going to be balanced and instead heavily skewed towards a value range from villain. As we move up in stakes, we would have to widen this range, due to the population being more balanced/skilled and thus this becomes ever closer to a call.

As an overall gameplan I am fine with playing an exploitative/ value heavy style at lower stakes as supposed to balanced, due to the loose passive tendencies of the pool, and the lower bluff percentage/ exploiting range. So in essence I'm fine with folding here, due to the fact that we will have a large edge in the pool, and better spots will exist, and the population playing passive/ face up in this spot, and not being close to balanced.

As we move up the GTO balanced approach your range suggest will become more and more the norm, so I'm not saying your wrong, and indeed in a vacuum your not, I'm saying the population dynamics of micro pool, require us to recalibrate ranges and adjust accordingly.