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I am of British nationality and go by the online alias w34z3l. I am considered one of the top consultants in the field for technical analysis (i.e. database work) and application of game theory concepts to various card games. I make a range of educational content (including the videos and articles here) helping players, software designers and card game enthusiasts to take their strategic understanding to the next level. My background in teaching helps me to communicate concepts effectively and clearly.Whether you are looking to generate a full-blown understanding of optimal strategy or simply pick up the skills to surprise your friends in a home game, feel free to contact me through the message system.

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Amazing concept video with examples from Adam 'w34z3l' Jones. He covers multi-way pots in full including; HU vs multi-way, common mistakes in multi-way pots and leading multi-way pots.

This is a progression from his other recent video - Winning Without Showdown.

Game: No Limit Hold 'Em


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trollord59on 6/1/15

I never said i was playing high stakes with players like Sauce. Maybe by the end of the year, who knows. Probably not. I only play 50nl on stars for decent 6bb/100 winrate. What i was implying was in that comment was that i have learnt a lot about poker in general from players of this caliber. However, i won't admit to never playing exploitably. There are certain spots i will vary fold/calldown frequencies because people overbluff/underbluff in these spots. I also overbluff in spots where good players would never expect you to be bluffing. A classic example is when you 3 barrell on Ace high boards.


trollord59on 6/1/15

Yeah.. Its amazing how some coaches only show the times there plays do work. Its dangerous because people might think these plays are actually unexpoitable. \


w34z3lon 2/1/15

@Daysinthenorth - It is true villain may call a larger bet specifically with overs and a FD - this is just one part of his range however. He can have Qx hands, PP s below Qx, straight-draws including gutshots. Also players are generally less inclined to put in a lot of money with draws when the texture is paired (for reverse implied-odds reasons) making it harder to get a large bet paid off. Finally there is always the possibility that opponent has some better 9x or QQ etc. So I think by default the sizing is reasonable, but we certainly might be able to get larger paid off depending on the opponent.


w34z3lon 2/1/15

@Trollord59 - Keep in mind the line takes advantage of population tendencies for limits 200nl below. Your comments are generally unfounded also - nowhere did I recommend x/r AT on an AK6 board. You evidently dont appreciate the significance of the material. You are right that the leading range may not be balanced (but not totally unbalanced either), but that s also the whole point. These are exploitative lines that have been statistically proven over millions of hands to increase winrate and red-line. Judging by your comments on previous videos you are apparently routinely playing highstakes games vs sauce123. I would recommend therefore that you focus on your own development rather than watching ssnl training vids which have limited application to your current game.


DaysInTheNorthon 7/12/14

on the turn at 22:25 when we have 89s on the q99 flop with a FD and the turn is a blank. Shouldn't we bet out bigger for value? If our opponent has a nut FD and two overs then he'll probably call a larger bet than a little over 1/2?


trollord59on 29/11/14

You seem to place so much emphasis on having the betting lead in a hand when from a GTO standpoint there is never really any extra EV from having it. Its position that is important, not having initiative. The leading with top pair weak kicker is just awful. You take a perfectly decent showdown-able hand and turn it into a bluff. In the longterm, you will just end up valuetowning yourself, and getting bluffed off the best hand since your leading range is so unbalanced. I notice players with your type of thinking are the ones who thinks its good to Check/raise A,10 for value on a A,K,6 board UTG vs BB.

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