Posted 7 years ago
Sick read MG, puts a lot in perspective.

I love your confidence, and why not aim high, set a good target and go chase that dream.

As for me, il stick to the job I'm doing now, comfortable and know what I'm getting each month, anything extra I win at poker is just to be enjoyed.

Do you think there is a difference between people who play it for a little extra cash and those who play poker for a living to how they think about the game? Do the people like you who play the game for a living enjoy poker a little less as its a job and not a hobby?
Posted 7 years ago
dont try PLO ,I remember someone said it is harder to quit than heroin Laugh
Posted 7 years ago
Very healthy approach when it comes to the whole 'being a professional poker player' thing. It's never good to put all of your eggs in one basket and we tend to romanticize the short run forgetting about the long run. The only thing I'd want to point out is that your average 9-5 can be as much volatile as poker if it doesn't really offer a clear promotion path, but pretty much all you wrote is on point.

Posted 7 years ago
Very good post! I totally agree with everything you said.

Poker is a job like any other, you can look at it as any other big branch like the banking world for example.

If you are at lowstakes it can be compared to the mail room. You work your ass off for very little pay, but you are working for the next job.
Who will move up form there? The best guy ofc, the guy that works the hardest, you dont need to be very smart to deliver the mail.
And then you move up to salesman (lowstakes) Here the competition is fierce and there are many ppl trying to get the next promotion. Some are satisfied with this role and these ppl are not your competetion.
But many people want to become the manager (midstakes). You really need to do something special to get the next promotion.You can either be smarter (top 1 %, not very likely),you can work harder or work with more focus than the others. One thing is for sure, you need something that others dont have.

From here just a few people make it into the board (highstakes).But the same is true. You need to do something better than all other managers to become part of the board.

Moral of the story. You need to distinguish yourself from the rest and most likely work harder than all your competition. Find what you are good at and what you can do better than everyone else and use it to the max.

About PLO:

I think if you have not reached midstakes in NL today i would for sure think about starting in to play lowstakes PLO instead. The competion is much weaker and its much much easier to reach the highstakes in PLO than in NL. Lowstakes NL regs are very good and work really hard, as seen here in the forum. But the same is not true for PLO. The knowledge is weaker for the average reg and there is fewer people trying to get to the top in PLO.
Posted 7 years ago
lankyross: Do you think there is a difference between people who play it for a little extra cash and those who play poker for a living to how they think about the game? Do the people like you who play the game for a living enjoy poker a little less as its a job and not a hobby?


The difference is that full time players have more experience, they've put in more work, therefore they are better.
I guess I enjoy it less. I hate gambling actually. To stay tilt free, you have to cope with running bad, coolers etc saying that it's just variance. But it goes another way around when you run hot. You feel nothing.

lennuk: dont try PLO ,I remember someone said it is harder to quit than heroin :D


Maybe that's the reason why I should since opponents are addicted Cheeky

MattVIP: The only thing I'd want to point out is that your average 9-5 can be as much volatile as poker if it doesn't really offer a clear promotion path

I actually addressed it - "you lose job experience EV which might or might not be very high". Sometimes it's hard to understand me Cheeky

@Prostaker What way of transitioning from NLHE to PLO would you suggest for a player with minor PLO knowledge and 3-4k roll? I was thinking of spending like 1 day / week to play and study exclusively PLO. Main reason why I haven't started it already is the fact I don't really know what to study. I don't like idea of watching random videos that might or might not be relevant, so I'd spend my time very inefficient. :/
Posted 7 years ago
First day of Chinese room in books. Started with 1 table, added 1 more in afternoon session (besides 5->4 &888). So far so good. Some aspects of software are tilting af (like have to manually resize and place tables). Can't say much about game softness - sure there are people who can't wait to lose money, but it is the same in any other room.

Posted 7 years ago
I'd actually suggest starting at PLO2 at least for a good few thousand hands. Omaha is complicated and that combined with the increased variance makes potential mistakes costly plus you'll play against bad players on every limit so you might as well learn the fundamentals on the cheap.
Posted 7 years ago
PLO2 funn times Laugh I think I've played ~5k PLO hands, PLO2-6. especially I enjoyed HU. First aspects I need to master is PF hand ranges of course and understanding how to play flush draws. I lost quite a bit with Q/J high flushes. I don't have Omaha manager as well unfortunately.

Ok, full focus at NL100 for now. If Sat/Sun goes well, I'm shooting next week!
Posted 7 years ago
Fingers crossed! I hope you'll crush it. As for PLO, I'm a big fan of the concept of training specificity so if getting to NL100-200 is so important to you I wouldn't dilute my efforts by adding PLO to the mix. It might be better to think about branching out once you're in a more comfortable spot as a NL100 reg.
Posted 7 years ago
Won monies, but not enough for shot (minor cash out didn't help). Need to luckbox ~100 eur for shot. Curious to see how much RB I get tomorrow for n8, 3 tabled NL50 2 full days + 1-2 tables on Friday with bunch of HU. Hopefully I can get done with it tomorrow and it's show time on Tuesday.

Otherwise, starting to work earlier and earlier and having regular and balanced diet. Feeling very fresh whole day. Signed up to run a relay for my Swedish club next month, so training regularly as well. Finally feeling that this poker lifestyle is sustainable!

Posted 7 years ago
You can check you N8 RB buddy! Click cashier then cash back on left hand side!
Posted 7 years ago
Jef147: You can check you N8 RB buddy! Click cashier then cash back on left hand side!


Ahh yes, thanks! Smile Gonna receive 56$ tomorrow Laugh
Posted 7 years ago
Just remember that making is shot is mostly about risk-reward calculations and skill level, not about some arbitrary amount of money. You need enough to minimize the risk of ruin (and have a bankroll management strategy in place so you can't lose too much) and buy yourself a bit of mental insurance. I'm not a big fan of rushing shots because the fact of the matter is that if you're a solid winner at NL50 you'll making buy-ins at such a fast rate that there's no point in being too hasty. That being said you obviously have more info and a better feel for your particular situation, just remember not to go 'all-in' on this.
Posted 7 years ago
MattVIP: Just remember that making is shot is mostly about risk-reward calculations and skill level, not about some arbitrary amount of money. You need enough to minimize the risk of ruin (and have a bankroll management strategy in place so you can't lose too much) and buy yourself a bit of mental insurance. I'm not a big fan of rushing shots because the fact of the matter is that if you're a solid winner at NL50 you'll making buy-ins at such a fast rate that there's no point in being too hasty. That being said you obviously have more info and a better feel for your particular situation, just remember not to go 'all-in' on this.


No worries, risk of ruin is pretty much 0. The way I shot take is just add 1-2 tables besides my regular stakes. If lose, drop them and recover, if goes well, slowly add more tables until fully moved up. Also, I use 888Caption which converts stacks to big blinds, therefore it'll feel the same. Regs are mostly the same. Fish are at every stake. My mental game is at all time high, so I'm very confident.
Posted 7 years ago
Sounds like you know what you're doing. Fingers crossed as always! I hope you'll smash it.
Posted 7 years ago
How many tables you playing atm?
Posted 7 years ago
Jon-PokerVIP: How many tables you playing atm?


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Posted 7 years ago
No glory today. Which one you fuckers is 'SabreToothCat' at N8? Laugh I know you come from vip as UK flag.

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At least others knew I'm close to well fare and helped out..

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Fun hands, but you get them in any other room as well if play 8h/day. My Qatar flag also is GTO.
Posted 7 years ago
Another character building day. Very swingy as now I play 100% volume at NL50. A bit hard to understand how loose to stack off post flop at n8. Looks like 100 shot won't happen this week as I'm away Fri-Sun, but all good.

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Posted 7 years ago
Heading to hometown tomorrow, so I'm finished for the week with balance of 100% losing days. Laugh Enjoying 10 BI downer at 888, but it's basically from big all ins where money was due to go in. Today dropped 5 BI's of coolers in 150 hands weee. On the bright side, finally found some traction at N8 as I've tagged the field and have notes.

I've also decided to gg 888. Rake, no RB and all bots just make it not worth it. I'd probably need to maintain 10bb/100 there, but it's very hard to do at tables with 1 fish, 3 bots and 1 human reg. Gonna shift that action to PokerStars, but first I need to grind back those 10 BI's to finish in positive momentum Laugh

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