DaysInTheNorth

are we ever folding here?

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400bb against a 3bet open shove at 2nl, yes I'm folding always.

I never expect to see any hand turn up other than AA when a player 3bet shoves 400bb.

Not just at 2nl. If someone at higher stakes is 3bet jamming 400bb over 3bb open then they are a fish and you should disregard any 'oh its NL50, people are aggro stuff'. He either has AA or is on ubertilt. Mostly AA as ubertilted guys tend not to have 500bb stacks.

I think you guys are crazy to ever fold KK here even though it is 400BB.

I'm folding too.

This will be AA so frequently it's not even close. The fact we only have 57% vs QQ+,AK, but get raped 80-20 vs AA should really highlight that.

It's rare that you'll be put in this spot and have 400 bb vs a shove. I don't really see this spot happen, it's very rare apart from when these two hands battle it out. Unless you see this guy do anything crazy all the time then maybe we have to fold for this amount. So I guess the question is... at what point stackwise do we start to fold KK pf? Of course it's villain dependent too.

Any info on the player?

No information on the player.

playing completely blind.

I think in hindsight, it's a fold for this amount of bbs.

the question of the matter is if we have 100bbs and face the same exact situation, are we calling?

100bbs deep we are never folding.

+1 never ever folding KK for 100bb's

I'm snap/calling for 200bb and move on. After that I might get a bit wimpy. Might.

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