5NLz calling raise with pairs

Posted 7 years ago

On this board he can connect well, so was not looking at trips? But how can we estimate them?

He had normal stats, 22/17/4

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$0.02/$0.05Zoom No Limit Holdem PokerStars
6 Players

Blinds $0.02/$0.056
UTG Guest533 $7.32
UTG+1 cmanny8 $7.84
CO Tbl-Xopek $6.42
D blackmamb393 $8.53
SB Serrgei93 $9.67
BBHero $5
Preflop
6$0.07Hero is BBAJ
Guest533 raises to $0.15, cmanny8 calls $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls$0.10
Flop
3$0.47AJ7
Hero checks, Guest533 checks, cmanny8 bets $0.20, Hero calls$0.20, Guest533 folds
Turn
2$0.87T
Hero checks, cmanny8 bets $0.53, Hero raises to $1.06, cmanny8 goes all-in $7.49, Hero goes all-in$3.59
River
2$13.01, 2 all-in Q
Final Pot $13.01
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Jacks AJ cmanny8 shows three of a kind, Tens TT
cmanny8 wins $12.59 (net +$4.75)
Hero collects$0.00 (net -$5)

Guest533 lost $0.15
Giorgio

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Posted 7 years ago*
I'm 3betting this pre flop, don't think AJo is going to be ev- to call here. My first reaction was to c-r the flop but we have the board crushed and too much folds.

Why the min raise on the turn, we're giving them great odds to call with everything? I'd have most likely called the turn and shoved on good rivers. I call turn because I find it hard for them to call with much given we block a lot of combos.
Posted 7 years ago
The preflop call i think is fine when we are closing the action. We want to 3bet more polorized here and AJ plays well if we keep in all is worse Ax and Jx.

The flop we should c/r imo to get value from Ax and to not give him so good odds to draw with gutshots. Since he called the UTG open he can have AK and AQ a fair amount of the time. Its also quite a good spot to c/r as a bluff since he will likely stab once here IP and we can get some folds. If we want to do this as bluffs we also needs some hands to c/r for value and I think that should be 77,JJ, AJ.

The turn is a bad card for us since the KQ gets there and also the 89s. Dont want to c/r here since we will most likely get folds from hands we beat like JT AK KQ. Would keep calling and hope he value cuts him self with AK AQ or bluffs with a hand like QJ KJ KT QT on the river.
Posted 7 years ago
This is usually a fold for me preflop. Not a hand type I like to squeeze OOP. Being suited helps you so much on the turn when you need to leverage some fold equity following a c bet. We also expect to run into kicker issues when we're squeezing an UTG open.

I would go for a donk bet on this flop hoping to prevent both players pot controlling a hand which will call down if we lead.

Turn raise looks a bit too thin with the straights getting there, even if there are some worse two pairs which can continue. I think we're just blowing too many hands that might make a thin value bet on the river.


Posted 7 years ago
Pre: I would definitely prefer to be squeezing this hand pre rather than flat calling here. (Fun hand - Every single option, raise, call and fold have been advocated by different people)

Flop: Vs this sizing I would be raising for sure. We have a strong hand and want to build a pot,such a small bet from our opponent is not going to accomplish this.

Turn: Not in love with this T, the board has become more connected now so our relative hand strength has gone down. I don't hate the check raise here but when we get jammed on I think it is a reluctant fold. We are beating AT, JT/TT seem unlikely as I would not expect a flop bet with this hand, but KQ/89 would all make sense here as well. People are very unlikely to be threebetting the turn with single pair hands also so that is why I al ruling out AK/AQ type hands here.
Posted 7 years ago
Whats the reason for folding preflop? If you are folding this hand whats your calling range? @Turlock

Whats your reason for Squeezing this hand? If we squeeze this hand whats your calling range? @fergrberger@Harvie
Posted 7 years ago
AJo isn't going to play overly well OOP in a multiway pot and people overfold to an absurd degree to squeezes in these games so I feel squeezing is going to me more profitable than flatting.

I typically call with hands that have strong multiway potential, even OOP. SC's and PP's primarily.
Posted 7 years ago
Okay @fergrberger.

I think if we want to exploit their overfolding tendencis we can use worse hands than this. Using AJo as a bluff here will just make them fold all hands that we dominate like AT,KJ,QJ,JT and and continue with hands that dominate us AK,AQ. Makes more sence to use a hand that can fold out some better hands imo.

Since we are in the BB and facing 2 strong ranges we dont want to 3bet many hands at all for value so we wont need a big bluff range.

When getting 3,7:1 and closing the action i think we can call many hands bc we get good odds and their ranges are pretty easy to read.

Posted 7 years ago
I'm confident that calling will also be profitable, but I'm not a fan of playing these types of hands OOP in a multiway pot without the betting initiative and would argue that you turn a higher profit by squeezing.
Posted 7 years ago*
it would depend who is utg opener if i would sqz AJo here. With sqz we thin the filed with the hand that have good blockers but plays poorly oop mw. I would flat AJs and hands that plays good mw like sc/pp. sqz (if factors are good)> fold> call
Posted 7 years ago
I dont think we thin the field to much, not expecting many folds from UTG opener and not from the caller after UTG opener calls. The hands we expect them to fold is the only hands we actually can take some value from postflop in this spot AT KJ QJ JT.

If we build our calling range without high card hands like this we wont be able to play back on many boards. Only calling SC and PP here will make us very strong on middle and low boards, boards they dont hit when we hit. And super weak on high boards. So to get some board protection I think its smart to call hands like this, Hands that has the EQ to call and bluff with a weaker range that doesnt have the EQ to call the PFR but probably have close to the same EV when we 3bet.

If this was some other positions like CO open and BTN call I think we make a much stronger case for squeezing but in this spot I think its bad.

Posted 7 years ago
Well, Leakbuster says i'am sqeeuzing not enough. How big would you go with the sqeeuze? 55 - 55c?