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sham123321sham123321

Posted 7 years ago

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a common situation but whats the right thing to do

Posted 7 years ago•Edited 7 years ago

PokerStars Hand #157726073256: Tournament #1646751166, $7.14+$0.36 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2016/08/25 18:12:31 WET [2016/08/25 13:12:31 ET]
Table '1646751166 6' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Tantoy99 (10170 in chips)
Seat 2: Avtor(RUS)(9810 in chips)
Seat 3: bungakat (9285 in chips)
Seat 4: EugenPoly1 (9885 in chips)
Seat 5: hoangtinhvan (10030 in chips)
Seat 6: offaly1 (9860 in chips)
Seat 7: 0CJC0 (11015 in chips)
Seat 8: Johnny.Hope (10135 in chips)
Seat 9: alexserge (9810 in chips)
Tantoy99: posts the ante 10
Avtor(RUS): posts the ante 10
bungakat: posts the ante 10
EugenPoly1: posts the ante 10
hoangtinhvan: posts the ante 10
offaly1: posts the ante 10
0CJC0: posts the ante 10
Johnny.Hope: posts the ante 10
alexserge: posts the ante 10
0CJC0: posts small blind 25
Johnny.Hope: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to offaly1 [8s 8c]
alexserge: folds
Tantoy99: calls 50
Avtor(RUS): folds
bungakat: folds
EugenPoly1: folds
hoangtinhvan: raises 9970 to 10020 and is all-in
offaly1: calls 9850 and is all-in
0CJC0: folds
Johnny.Hope: folds
Tantoy99: folds
Uncalled bet (170) returned to hoangtinhvan
*** FLOP *** [3h Qs 5h]
*** TURN *** [3h Qs 5h] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [3h Qs 5h Ts] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hoangtinhvan: shows [Kd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
offaly1: shows [8s 8c] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
hoangtinhvan collected 19915 from pot
offaly1 re-buys and receives 10000 chips for $7.50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19915 | Rake 0
Board [3h Qs 5h Ts 3s]
Seat 1: Tantoy99 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Avtor(RUS) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: bungakat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: EugenPoly1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hoangtinhvan showed [Kd Kh] and won (19915) with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 6: offaly1 (button) showed [8s 8c] and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 7: 0CJC0 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Johnny.Hope (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: alexserge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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sham123321sham123321

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Posted 7 years ago
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
No Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars
9 Players
$7.14+$0.36

Blinds25/509
UTG alexserge 9,810
UTG+1 Tantoy99 10,170
MP1 Avtor(RUS) 9,810
MP2 bungakat 9,285
MP3 EugenPoly1 9,885
CO hoangtinhvan 10,030
DHero 9,860
SB 0CJC0 11,015
BB Johnny.Hope 10,135
Preflop
9165Hero is BTN88
1 fold, Tantoy99 calls 50, 3 folds, hoangtinhvan goes all-in 10,020, Hero goes all-in9,850, 2 folds, Tantoy99 folds
Flop
220,085, 2 all-in 3Q5
Turn
220,085, 2 all-in T
River
220,085, 2 all-in 3
Final Pot20,085
hoangtinhvan shows two pair, Kings and Threes KK
Hero shows two pair, Eights and Threes 88

hoangtinhvan wins 20,085 (net +10,055)
Tantoy99 lost 60
Hero lost9,860
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HarvieHarvie

Posted 7 years ago

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Posted 7 years ago
Seems like a very loose call here 197bb deep. At best we are flipping, looks like a very easy fold to me here so early. Why risk your entire stack when you're not in danger of being blinded out so early?
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TurlockTurlock

Posted 7 years ago

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Posted 7 years ago
Way too loose a call. Even for 100bb stacks. For 200bb you're pretty much going to only be happy getting KK+ in pre. some will say AA.

It looks like you could benefit from watching some training videos to get used to preflop play in MTTs. Also download an app such as Equilab so you can play around with how well each hand type matches up against the others when the money goes in pre.

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fergrbergerfergrberger

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Posted 7 years ago
This seems like a very suspect call. When stacks are so deep and someone takes this line, sure it is possible we are flipping but we are rarely going to be ahead considerably and I am not at all surprised when we are crushed. Doubling up early in a tournament does not double your expected $EV so even if we knew with 100% accuracy that villain has AKo and we are a marginal favourite, it is still mathematically correct to lay this hand down. (This is under the assumption that we have an edge on the field as a whole, our EV of keeping our tournament in tact and looking for future, more profitable spots is going to be higher than this marginal flip)
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