Pigfarmer

BB is a fairly unknown player. I was a bit confused by his donk bet on the turn I thought it could be a JX hand and he don't want me to draw on the flush for free. I don't know how to play this river.. my thought process was that most AJ hand are blocked and I also block the nut flush so I decided to try to bluff him off a weaker J on the river sense I did not think he donks the turn with a full house.

Help is much appreciated!

GTECH G2 (Boss) - kr1 NL (5 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 101.13 BB
SB: 201.34 BB
BB: 194.8 BB
UTG: 440.48 BB
Hero (CO): 198.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Ac
UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop : (12.5 BB, 3 players) 6c 8h Jc
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 9.37 BB, BB calls 9.37 BB, fold

Turn : (31.24 BB, 2 players) Js
BB bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

River : (79.24 BB, 2 players) 2c
BB bets 58 BB, Hero raises to 161.13 BB and is all-in, BB calls 99.43 BB and is all-in

BB shows As Jh (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 8%, Flop 9%, Turn 98%)

Hero shows Ad Ac (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 92%, Flop 91%, Turn 2%)

BB wins 384.25 BB

Last Post 7 years ago by

Turlock

Posts

2,192

Views

Copy post URL

https://www.pokervip.com/thread/view?forum=poker-strategy&slug=aa-river-play&nav=5769f8a5d39043734d8b45b3

This type of lead on turn or river is typically incredibly value heavy by weaker players. Vs an unknown or solid player I could consider just folding the turn.

On the river, if he had any bluffs in his turn leading range, most of them got there. So again villain's range should be super strong. Lots of Jx, a fair amount of flushes, some full houses and the occasional T9 with no clubs. I would definitely be folding.

I do like that you thought about turning your hand into a bluff since calling will almost never win. I think it's important to know villain a little more trying to get them to fold 3 of a kind or better. There are many players out there who won't even consider folding TP and against them such a move will be massively spewing money.

The above comment is solid.

I really don't expect the BB to have anything less than a J when they donk the turn that big. Unless they are a spazzy whale, any reg or weak tight player is not going to try and bluff you in this spot.

River is an easy fold when the flush gets there as well, think shoving over the top is a spew, they never call us with worse.

Looks like a classic case of over playing AA.

I can't really add anything to what the other guys have said here but I might think about folding the turn as dealing with river bets become an issue.

I do have to ask though... at the the time when you raised the river, was it turning your hand into a bluff or was it for value?

@Pigfarmer

Thanks for the replies, yeah it makes a lot of sense that his range is strong when he bets turn. Would a good player ever donk bet that turn and if so with what hands and why?

Yes it was intended as a bluff, at the time I thought it was a reasonable spot to bluff for the reasons mentioned in my post. But after your inputs it does seem like a really bad play. Guess I would have to know that BB probably does not donk out on the turn with a boat and even if that was true he also has to be capable of folding a JX hand or a none nut flush on the river.

@Grocker6

Sorry

@Pigfarmer I should have reread your write-up on the hand and I wouldn't have had to ask the question!

No worries

@Grocker6

Standard until the river.

With the club draw coming in and the number of Jx he can have there's nothing to be gained by raising the river, he either has it or he's never calling. That said I'm still folding to the bet, he just has too many combos in his range that beat us to call.

Add your "Room Name" username and register with PokerVIP