aj nl 5

Posted 8 years ago

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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem 888

5 Players

Blinds 0.4BB/1BB5
UTG Player6 $50BB
COHero $100BB
D Player9 $164BB
SB Player1 $114.8BB
BB Player4 $112.8BB
Preflop
5$1.4BBHero is COJA
1 fold, Hero raises to 3.4BB, Player9 calls 3.4BB, 2 folds
Flop
2$8.2BB6K3

Hero bets6BB, Player9 calls 6BB
Turn
2$20.2BBA
Hero bets15BB, Player9 calls 15BB
River
2$50.2BB4
Hero bets25BB, Player9 calls 25BB
Final Pot $100.2BB
Hero shows JA
Player9 shows A6

Player9 wins $95.2BB (net +$45.8BB)
Hero lost$49.4BB


vilian 31/21/1.8 afetr 43 hands .. river is a bet or a x/c ? you gyus play the same ?
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Posted 8 years ago
It's close, their stats make them borderline fishy but not a total whale.

I think I bet the river and I like your sizing. I don't think they are folding KQ/KJ/Kx too often to a smallish river bet so there's enough hands we gain value from.

Against a reg I'd be checking though.
Posted 8 years ago
After 43 hands I wouldn't be trusting that this guy is a fish just yet.

When I'm deciding if I can go for a third street of value with top pair I find it useful to look at the WTSD%. In the micros there's so many players who have a pattern of calling any showdown value over two streets then folding less than top pair to a third barrel. It's really easy to value cut yourself.

Even if a guy has looser pre flop stats than normal regs it's not uncommon to see a WTSD of 20% or less, which means they aren't calling down as often as you might expect for a weaker player.

As played though I like your line but might reduce the river bet size closer to 1/3 pot.
Posted 8 years ago
so you say is better to x/c river instead of betting?
Posted 8 years ago
Really interesting spot here as I rarely see anything worse call us on river as turn they can call with Kx and then fold that on river. Also if I checked and faced a bet I would fold as it just looks so strong.

I think I might just bet super small on the river to try and get villains Kx's to call so 1/3 pot type sizing.
Posted 8 years ago
utgboy: so you say is better to x/c river instead of betting?


This is where these spots can cause confusion with the logic. We can bet for thin value with a wider range the smaller our bet size is, because obviously the better odds we offer the villain, the more often he will call.

But if we check, in the micros where players don't bluff so often, especially when they have showdown value, we can't call profitably as we don't beat enough of what they will value bet. As they're never bluffing at the required freqency.

Don't be afraid to use very small bet sizes, you won't get raised as often as you think. Particularly when villain's line indicates he has a made hand of sorts.
Posted 8 years ago
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Posted 8 years ago
Turlock:
utgboy: so you say is better to x/c river instead of betting?


This is where these spots can cause confusion with the logic. We can bet for thin value with a wider range the smaller our bet size is, because obviously the better odds we offer the villain, the more often he will call.

But if we check, in the micros where players don't bluff so often, especially when they have showdown value, we can't call profitably as we don't beat enough of what they will value bet. As they're never bluffing at the required freqency.

Don't be afraid to use very small bet sizes, you won't get raised as often as you think. Particularly when villain's line indicates he has a made hand of sorts.



how do you play this hands vs a reg ? by default
Posted 8 years ago
utgboy:
Turlock:
utgboy: so you say is better to x/c river instead of betting?


This is where these spots can cause confusion with the logic. We can bet for thin value with a wider range the smaller our bet size is, because obviously the better odds we offer the villain, the more often he will call.

But if we check, in the micros where players don't bluff so often, especially when they have showdown value, we can't call profitably as we don't beat enough of what they will value bet. As they're never bluffing at the required freqency.

Don't be afraid to use very small bet sizes, you won't get raised as often as you think. Particularly when villain's line indicates he has a made hand of sorts.



how do you play this hands vs a reg ? by default


The same as here but I would check the river and if villain bets I would make a decision based on the pot odds and what else I know about his tendencies.

Always ask yourself on the flop when you have a made hand how many streets of value you expect your opponent to pay you with a worse hand, it's makes planning later streets much easier. As for playing vs regs with one pair, getting paid 3 streets even with TPTK can sometimes be difficult.

Posted 8 years ago
Btn is bad to be flatting A6s there. Hands UL. The line is fine... perhaps even bigger on the river? 35 or so > 25 which is half pot. We want to have some kind on B B B bluff range for him to be calling wide. Us leading the A turn is good as it allows us to continue with bluffs and Kx can think we are just betting the scare turn and continuing river.

Alternatively as already stated a small bet works fine too, but I would rather be betting big and getting paid off by these weaker players.