You should be 3betting this hand pre. JJ is very strong.

After that, flop and turn are silly but yeah don't fold for that size of bet. On the river you actually have a full house, not a set, meaning you beat any straight. Villain's line is super fishy. If he has one of the 7 combos that beats you then this is a cooler. River should be a snapcall.

When a fish see's a straight, I don't always give them much credit for recognising their RELATIVE hand strength. He could be shoving with Tx here or AT.

Snap that and take all them moniesss a good chunk of the time!

I know JJ is a very strong hand but i don't really wanna turn my hand effectively into a bluff vs an UTG raise. If i 3b when he comes along i tend to be crushed and on the other hand he folds and i just collect the blinds. I prefer to leave my 3b'ing to when i'm on the BTN or in the blinds. Maybe this is a slight leak in my game?

What makes my flop silly? I see how the turn is silly.

Your play is fine, his flop and turn sizings are silly.

If you're playing in a game where villains only continue against a 3bet preflop here with QQ+ then you need to leave the game and never come back. Most players you 3bet here will continue with plenty of worse hands including several lower pairs and broadway cards that you're either a favourite against or crushing so JJ is not even close to being a bluff.

Thanks! I'm just following along what i've read in The Grinders Manual and that advocates flatting JJ really but that is from MP. My 3bet is quite low tbf at only 4%. I think i need to expand my range there a bit

River looks like a snap call against a villain making strange bet sizes. If he's bad then he can play tons of 9x combos this way expecting calls from possibly two pair and weaker 9x.

@Komododragonjesus Are you never calling JJ from the CO here? What about from MP? My standard is to call from both positions until I have at least some idea if villain is a reg or know what kind of player type he is. I'm also calling QQ MP vs UTG for the same reason.

JJ from MP is usually a call yeah but you can open up the closer you get to the button. It also depends a bit on how wide villains are playing. 3betting JJ vs a 20% UTG open is amazing, doing the same against a 10% open not so much.

Also in this hand villain makes it a minraise UTG which makes me think he's weaker and also makes me want to 3bet more since playing a 3-4 way pot with JJ is pretty likely with the tiny raise and that's undesirable.

Three betting JJ is not turning our hand into a bluff by any stretch, we can for sure be three betting this for value against a wide part of villains range. We may need to re-evaluate if we get 4bet of course but this scenario isn't going to happen a massive amount of the time. I don't hate the call by any stretch but my preference is to three bet here.

Flop: As played I think I would opt to just fold the flop here. We have a gutshot but it will be difficult to get paid if we hit it and if we improve to a set then there's 4 to a straight on board so we're not going to be looking for stacks by any stretch so despite the OKish holding that we have and the decent price we are getting folding seems better to me.

Turn: Again, I would opt to be folding here after villain has double barreled here.

River: Pretty sick overbet to be facing here after rivering the J but I am not planning on folding here. Villain has shown they are probably not the greatest player in the pool with their sizings throughout the hand and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they are overvaluing a hand like AT here. I click call button and get sad if they show us a better hand but I wouldn't be worried about it in the long run, I'd be more concerned about how I got to this point in the hand.

There's basically 2 scenarios that happen if we're getting 4bet here. Either a) villain 4bets a super tight range like KK+, then if say he's opening something like 12% then you're only getting 4bet 7.5% of the time (ie, 92.5% of the time you're not getting 4bet, great!). Or if villain 4bets wider then it will happen more often but then suddenly JJ has good equity against a wider range