Grocker6

I don't usually show the showdown or results, but I think here it's more relevant.
This hand seemed pretty standard to me.
What do you think of value bet on river? I don't see a check with his hand too often?
But is also difficult as I can only pin him on a KQs hand that calls down. No set checking river.
AQ always in his range but I still feel my hand is too strong to check back.

Player 2(SB) $18.95 - VP:45 PFR:9 AF:1.3 W:0| STL:14|0 3B:11| CB:0|33 N:-2.71 Hands:22
Player 3(BB) $10.03 - VP:14 PFR:9 AF:Inf. W:0| STL:0|50 3B:17| CB:100| N:0.33 Hands:22
Me(CO) $11.59
Player 4(UTG) $8.95 - VP:15 PFR:0 AF:Inf. W:33|0 STL:0|100 3B:0| CB:|100 N:-1.05 Hands:13
Player 5(MP) $12.04 - VP:32 PFR:27 AF:1.0 W:29|100 STL:50|50 3B:0|0 CB:60|50 N:9.29 Hands:22
Player 1(BTN) $9.07 - VP:19 PFR:10 AF:Inf. W:0| STL:33|50 3B:0|100 CB:100|100 N:0.16 Hands:21

Pre Flop: Me(CO) with [Jc,Ac]
Player 4(UTG) folds,
Player 5(MP) raises 0.30,
Me(CO) raises 0.90,
Player 1(BTN) folds,
Player 2(SB) folds,
Player 3(BB) folds,
Player 5(MP) calls 0.60

Flop: (2s,4c,Qc)(2 players)
Pot - 1.95
Player 5(EP) checks,
Me(LP) bets 0.95,
Player 5(EP) calls 0.95

Turn: Js (2 players)
Pot - 3.85
Player 5(EP) checks,
Me(LP) bets 2.10,
Player 5(EP) calls 2.10

River: Ad (2 players)
Pot - 8.05
Player 5(EP) checks,
Me(LP) bets 3.60,
Player 5(EP) calls 3.60

Final:
Player 5(MP) wins 14.95
Me(CO) shows [Jc,Ac]
Player 5(MP) shows [Ah,Qs]

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I think you went kind of speeew here.
Preflop and flop I like.

The turn is the tricky one, the only hands that call here are mostly better than yours, you block a lot of the good flush draws that he could have and he only maybe calls with TT (very questionable but possible) or KJ with the Kc (he could be calling this one pre and on the flop, sometimes).
He's mostly calling you with QX and I think it would be AQ more often than KQ, even though we block AQ I think players usually fold KQo preflop more. So I would check back turn and take my equity and control the size of the pot. If I did decide to bet it would be really small I think to get value from some pocket pairs if he overcalls.
As played if I still bet turn I definitely don't bet river since now he's almost never calling with worse, he played it really weird and just called with 2 pair which I think is pretty nitty.

It's fine to bluff 3bet this and flop is also fine but, I can't really see the point in betting the turn. You can't ever get value here and you now beat all of the villain's floats. As played I'd probably still bet the river given the limit but not always since it's getting super thin vs. UTG.

Ok thanks, nice to read your replies.

Pre and flop look good. Turn is a little of a deceptive card because your hand looks like a monster but you will really only have ~31% equity against any Qx. Also if you consider what he'll be doing with his range, villain will call or raise all Qx or better and on the Jx turn most if not all of his underpairs like 99 will fold on the 2nd overcard. By betting turn you do get to charge him for a flush draw he might have but that's not a concern since you have the nut draw and can just get all the money in on the river if it hits anyways. All those reasons lead me to check the turn.

I agree the river bet is thin but it could be good depending on villain. I'd default to a check back. AQ being in his range is a huge problem. Lets say we consider his calling range being only AQ KQ QJ then you're only ahead of 5 combos while losing to 6 so it's -EV already and that's not considering any sets. If villain is loosey goosey then of course it can be very profitable.

All looks totally fine and legit buddy. We can check the turn with no flush draw but in this spot fine to just bomb it and a good river value bet there.

Thanks, guys again, thought I'd replied on my phone but doesn't seem to have shown for me reading it here/
Yeah I think it's a pretty deceptive spot which I will think about for the future.
I don't know where I'd go as far as spew

But I can understand the reasoning for the check on the turn a lot better.
I guess I just always thought that betting again was correct, but this pot is a bit larger being 3 bet pre.

Komodo seems to be spot on IMO. I think the turn bet is fine but I certainly wouldn't mind a checkback. River is obvioulsy thin but I like it a lot. Thin value on the river is something that can hugely impact your winrate at the microstakes, speaking from personal experience. I like the sizing aswell

I would not check the turn here. However I think the current sizing is a mistake. Good spot to underbet the turn imo. Checking is reasonable. Betting your current sizing will likely be +EV just given the equity we have, but not max-EV.

And yeah, should value-bet the river, and keep sizing on the small side, which you did. So mainly fine, just make the turn sizing significantly smaller.

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