NL10 JsJh

Posted 8 years ago

Anon just sat in, posted blinds.

So versus anon but suspected busy reg, y'know the ones, you raise they rerraise ...you raise they rerraise ... would you go to war with this hand for stacks? Not used to all this 4bet stuff yet and I'd obviously go with QQ but is JJ enough without a lot of info? I know I can, but is it a normal stack off here?

Turns out my guess was right abut our aggro friend but the question is about unknowns really.

Thanks.

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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem Prima
6 Players

Blinds 0.5BB/1BB6
UTG Player 2 $101.5BB
UTG+1 Player 3 $117.1BB
CO Player 4 $63.6BB
DHero $100BB
SB Player 6 $132BB
BB Player 1 $91BB
Preflop
6$1.5BBHero is BTNJJ
3 folds, Hero raises to 2BB, Player 6 raises to 7.5BB, 1 fold, Hero raises to 18BB,
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Posted 8 years ago
Ppl are agressive from blinds these days and also 4b bluff alot.
So in this spot vs regs I am 4betting and getting it in.
Aside from QQ+ u will see lot of AK, AQ , TT and folds.
Posted 8 years ago
The problem with stacking off JJ at these stakes is the way that people have cottoned on to how profitable 3 bet bluffing is, yet the widest stackoff range you can expect in the vast majority of situations will still be QQ+, AK.

QQ and AK both have 40% give or take versus that range, but JJ only has 36% and that makes quite a difference when you look at the EV calculations.

Being able to defend by calling in position with JJ against what you think is a wide range will be super profitable. Of course you'll still have many difficult decisions on a lot of boards, but nobody said it would be easy. There isn't a simple answer to a lot of spots, you have to put in the work afterwards to see how you likely did.
Posted 8 years ago
I think this is totally fine as who really wants to play JJ out of position in a big pot.

I would always unless vs a huge nit or have huge reads just 4Bet get it in. I like your sizing also as it can make villain spew.
Posted 8 years ago
@StratoMan He had JJ IP here.

I'm not actually sure how much I like JJ as a 4bet here as you said... you just sat in. Also from the SB people will standardly 3bet SC's and suited aces all day.

So I think we can call and dominate so much of his range. Stacking off... I think we need a few more reads as I fully agree with what Turlock said about it here.
Posted 8 years ago
Getting it in should be fine. If his range is exactly QQ+, AK then you'll be losing a bit on the all-in but you can't know that for sure.

If you're up against a known tighter player, which you never will be at anon tables :P, then flatting will be better.
Posted 8 years ago
Fair enough, thank you very much everybody. Yes
Posted 8 years ago
I wouldn't 4b to fold this hand. If you dont think its correct to get all in preflop then flat call is better. I think the decision should be made before deciding to 4b.