MilfGrinder

villain is 38/16 over 400 hands. Likes donking. Bet size = hand strength.
Did I rekt turn with not raising bigger?
AP you call river?

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$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem 888
6 Players

Blinds$0.15/$0.306
UTG Player7 $59.47
UTG+1 Player9 $40.06
CO Player1 $30
D Player2 $30.86
SB Player4 $43.39
BBHero $32.46

Preflop
6$0.45Hero is BBTT
4 folds, Player4 raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $2.10, Player4 calls $1.50

Flop
2$4.20T37
Player4 checks, Hero bets$2.25, Player4 calls $2.25

Turn
2$8.706
Player4 bets $4.35, Hero raises to $10.95, Player4 calls $6.60

River
2$30.60J
Player4 bets $22.95, Hero ???

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I like your use of the word rekt here. I think your turn size was fine, $11 and $14 achieve the same thing IMO (that you're not folding).

River is super sickening because they donk jam after you showed strength. Think I'd call here with 2nd top set and hope they are doing it with lower sets. They are 38/16 so do expect some funky stuff to turn up on the river. If we had 33 I'd be folding the river.

your hand looks to him like overpair and i think he would bet for value any two pair hand so you have easy call with sets.

Gotta bet bigger OTF here! Then again yes raise bigger OTT.

The problem here comes from the bet sizing OTF though, if you make it 3.15 then we have a 10.50 pot OTT and we can make a much better case for shoving v his 50% donk.

@CrazyCookie You'd bet bigger flop vs rec as an explo bet or also go bigger vs regs?

I'd bet bigger v both, villain will call any size (within reason) with any pair or draws with this board texture as well as sometime float with a 2OC+BDFD or similar so might as well get the most out of them

I'd say 1/2 pot on the flop with range is the way to go on this texture, we can size up on the turn to 2/3 pot or bigger.

As played raise turn at least 3-3.5x and never folding river.

Curl-1-out: I'd say 1/2 pot on the flop with range is the way to go on this texture, we can size up on the turn to 2/3 pot or bigger.

As played raise turn at least 3-3.5x and never folding river.

Villain is calling exactly the same range if we bet 1/2, 2/3 or 3/4 here. Why would we choose the smaller size?

Moreover, villain is a recreational player so he is more inclined to call things OTF that are probably better to be folds, so we can exploit him more by betting larger.

Also if we stick with the flop sizing then go for a $5 bet OTT the pot will be $18 leaving a bigger than psb OTR. We want here really to have a 2/3 psb OTR as players overfold (correctly at these stakes) to over bets so we just leave a tonne of money on the table.

Smaller sizing because this board IP we cbet close to 100% (read - need a strong reason not to cbet), no?

Sure it goes down the drain vs rec's, therefore I see why exploitative bigger cbet with value hands possible is better vs fun players. But on the other hand, ever rec might fold picture cards against 3/4, but call 1/2 I think.

Yea smaller sizing because we're cbetting this board a tonne with our range. We can still size up on the turn enough to set up for stacks on the river. ($6ish and we've got $20ish in the middle with $22ish left behind which is totally fine)
If we're getting a little deeper say 120bbs+ to start the hand then yeh we need to start sizing up on the flop as cookie is saying.

If we know villain is a station or a whale then size up on the flop immediately with our strong hands otherwise stick to a size that makes sense for your range vs regs and recreational players.

Expect him to shove this str8s and sets on the turn here. So that river doesn't change much at all. We have Th so his flush combos is VERY limited. Plus we are very high up in our range. If we fold this hands we only call str8+. Would make a call on the river.

Pre: Standard.

Flop: Standard again, I like your sizing here.

Turn: Seems fine to me, I might go a touch bigger but not massively so. Maybe in the region of 12-13$.

River: River card changes very little here, the backdoor flush gets there but this seems like it can't make up that large a portion of villains range, straights I would expect to be getting it in on the turn then also and then we are ahead of all worse sets etc. I'm never folding here.

I would go bigger on the flop if only for the common pattern of fish calling twice with a wide range and giving up on the river.

Once he donks turn I think your raise size is fine making the river an easy shove.

On the river I'm not giving him credit for a flush, it's sich a small part of his range. Many players like this will take this line with a straight but I would expect him to put you on an overpair a lot and do the same with sets too.

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