TJs deep in $44 bounty builder

Posted 6 years ago

No history on villain, new to table.

How should we size the flop?

Would a c/r make sense on this board and our relative position?

standard to c/c turn?

Easy river fold given that I read into this sizing as flush? What flush combos should/could villain have?

He needs to be turning a PP into a bluff to take this line for us to be able to call right?

PokerStars - 800/1600 Ante 240 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 43,203 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
MP+1: 42,015 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 45,618 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BTN: 52,574 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 140,366 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BB: 67,430 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 21.67, 3Bet Preflop: 24.00, Hands: 60)
Hero (UTG): 90,880
UTG+1: 76,998 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

8 players post ante of 240, SB posts SB 800, BB posts BB 1,600

Pre Flop:(pot: 4,320)Hero has J:10:

[color=red]Hero raises to 3,632[/color], UTG+1 calls 3,632, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2,032

Flop:(13,616, 3 players)51010
BB checks, [color=red]Hero bets 5,125[/color], UTG+1 calls 5,125, fold

Turn:(23,866, 2 players)2
Hero checks, [color=red]UTG+1 bets 10,400[/color], Hero calls 10,400

River:(44,666, 2 players)6
Hero checks, [color=red]UTG+1 bets 29,600


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Posted 6 years ago
Pretty easy call on the river here. Villain will be bluffing heaps and our hand is not strong enough to raise.

Would be quite shocked if we are beat here tbh as I think once we check the flop all villains floats take this line.
Posted 6 years ago
Thing was I didn't see villain having many floats he still had big blind to act after him which reduces the likelihood of floats from him.

What hands does he call UTG+1 that float and turn into a bluff here?
Posted 6 years ago
We are ahead enough of the time to call the river, lots of bluffs here as well as random 5's that are putting you on Ace high type hands
Posted 6 years ago
Still not sure on this one chaps and not sure if you've both misread the hand.

We open UTG, get called UTG+1 (whats his range for doing this) and in the BB.

We cb a reasonable size, UTG+1 calls with BB yet to act (whats his range for doing this)

We check UTG+1 bets just under 1/2 pot (range) we call

We check villain bets ~ 2/3 pot vs our perceived range of Tx and all Over pairs, what bluffs would he have here seriously???
Posted 6 years ago
given the buy in I guess that UTG+1 is no complete moron...

UTG+1 calls with AQo (maybe even AJo+), AJs, KQs, and something like 66-TT

we can disregard all the Full Houses as he should not have 55 and 22, we can also disregard a better 10 as he should not have a better ten as UTG+1 caller

This means we have 3 combos with AsQx as a bluff. If his calling range was wider than I expected i dont see him floating with much worse hands (Maybe AJo and AKo and which means we sould see 9 bluff combos) and 2 combos for value.
Bettingpattern: you showed that you ware scared by the 6s, so lots of As hands will bluff raise as they now habe a Flush-draw and hope that you cbet with air. You called which made you hand pretty obviously... nearly all full house and NFD would reraise as you are not garanteed to get more value by the river if you c/r. So you might have 88+ or some Tx - probably JT or T9s. You obviously did not improve on the river so time for another barrel.


Disclaimer: I am a starting player and want to improve my game by contributing to threads like this. I am by no means a poker expert. So I am as much interested in your feedback to my thought process than you might be in my answer. I hope it helps and with you good luck - also english is my second language Smile

Posted 6 years ago
@FG_SpaceLord really like the way you analysed this hand.

I do still think that the BB being yet to act has been heavily discounted when assessing Villains range for calling the flop CB.

Also, after thinking about this hand quite a bit there shouldn't be much of my range that plays bet ck call ck fold unless the board ran out spade spade.

Given that thought Villain would likely realise I'm not ck calling turn and ck folding river too often giving him even less bluffs.

I dont know, maybe Tx here is too high up in our range to fold I just don't see villain having many bluffs or worse value bets in this spot.
Posted 6 years ago
Thanks Smile

all in all I this is a very close spot. And in the and it comes down to your read. If Villain was very agressive throughout the tournament he can have loads of bluffs here as I described. If not, than he is surly weighted towards value hands.

I dont think folding is particularly bad. On the contrary it is very very close. I still think that if the situation arises and we have no further read on villain we calling is more profitable, but maybe on a 53/47 ratio.