I'd go with Microgaming (betsafe is part of that). Games are pretty soft overall. There are a fiar amount of regs and some can btit quite aggressive though. Software is decent, nothing compared to Stars, but I have never had any problems with bugging or disconnecting that weren't on my end due to internet problems. You can also get a program called MPNTools that is like Stars Helper. It allows you to set stack in bb's you can put pot odds on screen, etc and I think most important you can set up hotkeys for bet sizing, as I would say that is the one major flaw with the software, it has limited bet sizing options and increments.

I play 10nl and 20nl mixed and there is always a fair number of games on both. I have looked at the 50nl and there seems to be a decent amount of traffic there, so if you mixed both stakes you could easily get 6 tables and probably more like 8-10 if you needed that.

I think the VIP program is the best. Depending on deal you get here, which are extremely good, and the other promotions that MPN is offering you can usually clear well over 50% in rakeback. I think last month I calculated that I was getting close to 70% back. You will get 30% flat rb + 20% 1st deposit bonus(you can usually request reloads when the 1st when finishes) + rake race here (~5-10%?) + other promotions(they have a points per day promo running right now that clears at ~15% with minimum daily point levels achieved on a certain amount of days per week)

Other downside is no HUD no tracking, unless you load an old version of HM2. Even when you do that you get no tracking on the Anon tables and you only get hand histories, from the reg tables, that you VPIP'd

Have the games changed at all since they got rid of HUD's? You would think a number of regs would have left as the majority of 'regs' seem to be married to their huds!

It really bugs me that the blaze games never run on MG! Especially now since you don't have a HUD on normal tables either you would think that would encourage people to play Blaze!

Hard to say with certainty. It feels like they got a bit softer and I had the same feeling, that a fair amount of regs would not like the fact that they can't track and would leave to go to a site that allows it. Likewise, rec players and regfish, who understand and know about HUDs and tracking, would "feel safer" and might find their way to MPN. The challenge on MPN is that every 1000 hands or 30 days, whichever comes first, you can change your screen name that people can see. So just cuz you stop seeing a reg on the tables, it doesn't mean they left, they could have just changed nicks.

Yeah I never understood why blaze doesn't run on MPN. It is a huge part of the pool on PS, Party, and 888 and maybe even iPoker, but on MPN nobody seems to want to play it. Its always a lot of fun when they run the blaze cannon promo, cuz everyone migrates over to it. Only at 10nl though.

I think I would try GUTs out. I heard they release their deposit bonuses in really small increments, which is really advantageous to players at our stakes. I am on a site right now that releases the bonus in 5 parts - 15%, 15%, 15%, 25%, 35%. At my stakes I ill never clear the entire bonus, but doing it in 15% increments to start means I probably will get stuck between the 1st and 2nd or 2nd and 3rd increment which means in reality I won't be getting that 20% rb for a portion of the play, which kind of sucks. I think I heard GUTs releases them in €5 increments, so you will actually be clearing bonus the vast majority of your bonus period and won't "lose" any.

Nice thank you Felix! I think I will try it out. I dont mind no hud but would be good with tracking but yeah, its what its!

You play on TonyBet too? Opinion?

I have an account there. I signed up over a year ago when Pvip.com had a promo where I got €15 just for signing up. I messed around a bit on the 2nl streets back then and got it up to about €70. Still have it over there but have never deposited or done any serious grinding over there. Always seemed super soft though and software is nice. I think when i get a BR for 50nl i will put some money over there and mix in a table or 2 of 25nl/50nl with the other sites I am going to play on. I haven't done any playing over there in a few months.

Not sure how many tables you like to play, but from what I have heard about TB you will have to play across multiple stakes to get enough tables like 6-8 for example, but not just like doing 25nl and 50nl. You might have to play some 10nl tables and go up to 100nl tables. So might work better as a filler site to grind some extra cash out of some soft games. So you could do like 4-6 tables on MPN and do 2-4 tables on TB.

Rake back is scaled. Can't remember how it works exactly, but it something like if you winnings are >-€100 you get 80% rb if you are between -€100 and +€100 you get 50% and if you are >+€100 you get 25%. Then you get the deposit bonus on top of that up to €2k. I think. Don't quote me on that, but its something close to that.

Would say TonyBet is a pretty nutted place to play now especially with our new rake Challenge!

Nice thanks!

Jon, you prefer TonyBet over Microgaming? Both are in the challenge and yeah, or what makes Tonybet "pretty nutted"?

Ooooh it is hard to part me from my best site of all time - MPN/Prima before....i love tht site so much for so many reasons but TonyBet is softer no doubt. I have actually just recorded a video for @mingthemerciless93 to review on here of me playing there so perhaps wait a week for tht then make your mind up?

Also their rewards are super high and software is fun (also a little birdy told me that they are currently developing it to make it even more NUTTED)

Would also say to just download and signup to the rooms you are thinking about and just watch the games for 30 mins...will say a lot

Thank you guys!