4nl Zoom KK

Posted 8 years agoEdited 8 years ago

Pre and flop standard.

What do we think his range is for donking the turn? Usually these weird small sized donks are airy type hands, but I thought there was enough Jx and draws that raising for value couldn't be terrible. Once he 3bets I feel like we might just have to fold - he just doesn't do this with any part of his range that isn't nutted. Is that overly pessimistic?

Once he calls and checks river, I was obviously shoving for value. No idea if this is good or not, his line is just uber confusing.

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$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem PartyPoker
6 Players

Blinds$0.02/$0.046
UTG Dinkey74 $12.48
UTG+1 BlackSharkAge $7.30
COHero $5.66
D WhiskeyParty $5.64
SB a11eria $5
BB DjuksoNN $33.28
Preflop
6$0.06Hero is COKK
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, DjuksoNN calls $0.06
Flop
2$0.22J75
DjuksoNN checks, Hero bets$0.14, DjuksoNN calls $0.14
Turn
2$0.502
DjuksoNN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.66, DjuksoNN raises to $2.01, Hero calls$1.35
River
2$4.525
DjuksoNN checks, Hero goes all-in$3.41, DjuksoNN calls $3.41
Final Pot$11.34
DjuksoNN shows 55
Hero shows KK

DjuksoNN wins $10.78 (net +$5.12)
Hero lost$5.66
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Posted 8 years ago
Turn donk I usually put down as something like a weak Jx or draw type hand trying to see a cheap river. After they donk then 3bet us I put their range as AJ and better, never folding a set though.
Posted 8 years ago
We don't have a set, we have an overpair Wink

How would you proceed after the turn 3bet? Also, what's the worst hand you'd be stacking off with?
Posted 8 years ago
His turn lead is questionable and you should definetly take a note on that.I saw some players are doing that for not missing out on value.It's brick turn and they might not expect to get barreled enough but size is weird to be honest.Against reg I'd probably call turn and river but against aggro fish the raising turn is ok imo.I don't see regs are 3betting turn with Jx type of hand nor flush draw.
Posted 8 years ago
Pre: Standard

Flop: Standard

Turn: I like raising here for sure when villain leads into us, when we get reraised though our hand is normally going ot be in trouble. It seems optimistic that villain is taking this line with a lone J here so I would be looking to reluctantly fold here.

River: Villains check to us now is very strange, I would have assumed that he would be leading his strong value here almost always so once he checks to us I would be expecting to be ahead here very often and I would be jamming for value now as well with the way the hand has gone.

Posted 8 years ago
I think shoving turn is the best. We don't want to miss value vs AJ KJ etc. And we want to get allin vs the draws he can play like this. Vs the hands that beat us we will be allin no matter what so nothing changes if we flat or go all in vs those, we will still loose max. So just try and maximize your EV vs the other parts of his range.
Posted 8 years ago
On this board I would prefer a bigger c bet size. Ton's of stuff coming along which won't change much based on how much we charge.

Turn raise is definitely best to avoid him seeing a cheap river with his draws. Once he comes back over the top though I'm folding. I never expect a 4NL villain to be playing a worse hand this way.