Grocker6

What do you think my course of action is here facing a pot sized bet on the flop?

Player 4(SB) $10 - VP:22 PFR:21 AF:0.5 W:25|0 STL:50|91 3B:0|100 CB:0| N:-3.27 Hands:58
Player 5(BB) $17.22 - VP:36 PFR:22 AF:6.0 W:18|0 STL:50|78 3B:4|50 CB:25|100 N:0.49 Hands:58
Me(MP) $10.30
Player 6(UTG) $10 - VP:13 PFR:11 AF:0 W:33|100 STL:29|100 3B:0| CB:0| N:-1.01 Hands:47
Player 2(CO) $5.21 - VP:24 PFR:20 AF:Inf. W:17|0 STL:67|80 3B:11|0 CB:0|100 N:1.31 Hands:45
Player 3(BTN) $14.62 - VP:16 PFR:12 AF:Inf. W:60|100 STL:36|92 3B:4| CB:67| N:3.18 Hands:58

Pre Flop: Me(MP) with [Qd,Qh]
Player 6(UTG) folds,
Me(MP) raises 0.30,
Player 2(CO) folds,
Player 3(BTN) folds,
Player 4(SB) folds,
Player 5(BB) raises 1,
Me(MP) calls 0.80

Flop: (Js,8c,7h)(2 players)
Pot - 2.25
Player 5(BB) bets 2.25,
Me?

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We're only worried about KK-AA here.

I'd call the flop to see if they shutdown on the turn, lots of players are prone to betting once and giving up. Not thrilled but I'm not folding here.

Pretty straight forward flop call and then not think about folding unless some scare cards come but to just generally call down.

Pre flop i think we can 4Bet for value and get in if needs be.

I just find it unusual he would use this sizing from what I normally see, plus my MP open got 3bet from the BB which looks a lot stronger.

StratoMan: Pretty straight forward flop call and then not think about folding unless some scare cards come but to just generally call down.

Pre flop i think we can 4Bet for value and get in if needs be.

I never opt to 4bet/GII at these stakes facing a 3bet from a nitty player (16/12/4) in the blinds vs. a non steal position! Would his 4% 3betting range have us crushed most of the time? Or should we 4bet/GII only only sometimes with QQ?

I cant agree it being straight forward ,if u think his 3betting range is strong then I can see this flop being foldable. Cause I think that if u call flop and then fold turn is worse. And if u add scarecards aswell then the turn is going to be sick spot to be in a lot of the times.

I think we can't fold this as it's the top of our 3bet calling range (I do 4bet it a decent amount of the time), also we only have a 58 hand sample on the villain so the 4% 3bet means almost nothing. It is definitely a call on flop in my book and re evaluate other streets depending on his actions.

vs 36/22 in 50 hands i prefer 4bet preflop and jam here, in this situation jam flop, only we loose vs AA-KK-JJ, then i prefer jam flop he can have KQ-AT-AJ-TT-99

GL!

Oops. I read his stats wrong earlierrrr! 4bet/GII pre

I'd jam this flop, see what the rng brings, move on. NH, gg.

Debating if playing it fast or calling is better. I think calling is better because raising is often going to isolate us against better. I'd personally be a little more cautious, call here and reevaluate turn, and depending on my read I think I'm giving up on a lot of turns even though it's kinda weak.

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