NL50-TT-HEADS UP

Posted 8 years agoEdited 8 years ago

I feel like I made a pretty bad play today that fortunately worked out, but I don't want to be results orientated. I can justify reasons for and against my line. Info on villain is important for this hand as I read him as tilting. I had just played the last three hands in a row with him (this was on Zoom). All three hands were big pots relative to the blinds and he folded to river bets on all three, but was in the tank on all three. Hence I thought he might be a little tilted, and thought of me as a super aggressive, spewy type player.

http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/7659679

Effective stack $60. Blinds 0.25/0.5 (cash game). Hero: BB, Villain D/SB

Pre flop:
He min raises to $1 and I three bet with tens to $3.50. I normally go $3 but I thought he might make a tilting call, so I went for more value. He then three bets to $9 and I elect to call.

Reasons I made the call: I figured there was a significant chance he had air and I wanted to allow him to keep bluffing post flop. Also if I 5 bet to get it in, he fold most of his bluffs and the range I get it in against likely has me dominated. I considered raising to $20, allowing him to shove over top with his air, but this seemed too optimistic.

Reasons I don't like the call: If the board comes two overs, he can keep barreling with his bluffs and I will likely have to fold to a flop or turn bet.

Flop:
Flop was 763

Good flop for me. I check to him expecting him to bet. I was planning to check raise, either all in or to $25 (and then shove all turns). However, I'm not sure whether this would be the best play as it folds out all his bluffs and I don't have a super equity against the hands that call. Even if I give him a range with plenty of draws, I only have ~43% equity with the hands that give my check raise action. Hence I think a check call, check shove the turn might be better play, to keep his bluffs in the hand. But he may not double barrel his air, hence I might only be shoving over a range better than TT.

However he checks back, to my surprise. I think at this stage, he likely has not much and is giving up. He can still possibly have good hands and is checking to induce a bet from me on the turn

Turn:
The turn comes the 2 completing the flush, but I think if he had it he would have semi-bluffed the flop.

I bet $11.49 into a touch under $18 (2/3 pot) for value. I don't want to give him another free card with his overs and I need to start getting some value. He calls

River
The river comes the A which I think is a terrible card as it completes a heap of his hands.

There's $41 in the pot and I have $39 behind. I check he shoves. I take my time and call

Reasons I made the call: There's still a heap of draws that missed and when I check, I almost turn my hand face up. The Ace is a good card for him to bluff on and I decided, that he has enough bluffs to make the call getting 2:1, so I call.

Bluffs he can have: 89, 58, KT-KQ with a spade, QT-QJ with a spade, JT with a spade, 9T with a spade, 44 or 55. He could also be over playing top pair or turning a pair of sixes into a bluff.

Reasons I don't like the call: There's still a significant amount of hands that can beat me

He shows 98 for a missed straight draw. This means all my reads were right, but are they right in the long run?
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Posted 8 years ago
I'll add that I had the 10 of spades, making the turn bet easier. As I have outs to a set, two pair or higher pair
Posted 8 years ago
Just get it in pre. There 16 over cards to TT which means there is about a 65% chance of one coming OTF and a 75 chance of one coming by the turn. It is heads up so he should be stacking what like 88+ AQ? I'm not 100% sure on HU but this sounds right? I he has Ax or Kx with a lower kicker he still gets ther 22% of the time by the turn and given he should bluff any BW card high flop it makes your life pretty tough.

AP The river is pretty tough, he can have A7(9), A6(9), A3(9) and some Ax with As (probably 10-15). Lest take away some of those as he won't 4b all of those so 20x Ax combos seems reasonable. I don't think he is turning a made hand into a bluff, and a good rule is that if they do have to turn a made hand into a bluff for us to have a +EV call, we should fold Cheeky

Bluffs 89 (16) BW w/spade (48). The huge problem with this range is that it will likely cbet a decent chunk of the time so we probably have to discount 50% of these hands (32) then he also won't 4b all of these hands pre all of the time, so like probably discount at least another 50% (16) and he may not shove all of them OTR as a bluff so drops it down to about (12)

So I think your range assumptions probably need some work. Also why do you think there is a high chance he ahs air? History or stats? Without these we can't assume that at all. I don't hate the call OTR as we only need him to bluff 33% but I don't think it is ever going to be clearly +EV. it is possible in these spots it is either slightly +EV or massively -EV to call.
Posted 8 years ago*
I agree I should have gotten it in pre. I made a mistake there. If I 5 bet to about to about $20 some good players are capable of 6 bet bluff shoving. Plus I'm still good against his value range

I thought he might have air as he was tilted (I did mention this at the start). I ended up taking 5 buy ins off him in total after this hand due to him tilting.

The reason I thought he might have more bluffs in his range is because when I bet the turn and check the river when the ace hits, I almost turn my hand face up (I think). My hand looks a lot like 88-TT or a missed draw. I think any set or better continues betting on the river and most two pairs do as well, and with the 3 flush board and the ace OTR he can try to push me off my single pair hands and missed draws