10nl JJ

Posted 9 years ago

Pre and flop seem standard enough; villain seems to be 3betting a lot, but it's over a very small sample. My main question is, how do we interpret the turn check? Deception and pot control, or an AK/AJ type hand that's giving up? What confused me is the river sizing. If villain was betting his more mid-strength value like AA/KK/AQ, he'd a) often bet those hands on the turn to get stacks in by the river, and b) usually bet smaller, given how weak my hand looks and the board texture being a little bit scary for his hand. So that splits his river bet into QQ and flushes, and bluffs. I just don't know how credibly he's repping a hand, but it all depends on what his turn check usually means.

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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem PartyPoker
6 Players

Blinds$0.05/$0.106
UTGHero $12.09
UTG+1 Player1 $5.13
CO Player2 $19.49
D Player3 $22.64
SB Player4 $7.05
BB Player5 $11.89
Preflop
6$0.15Hero is UTGJJ
Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Player3 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls$0.70
Flop
2$2.15474
Hero checks, Player3 bets $1.02, Hero calls$1.02
Turn
2$4.19Q
Hero checks, Player3 checks
River
2$4.193
Hero checks, Player3 bets $3.99, Hero folds
Final Pot$8.18

Player3 wins $11.97 (net +$5.96)
Hero lost$2.02
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Posted 9 years ago
If European Union runs this forum then ill have to write on top of my post lile following "Those post are used as a mark system. Author doesnt take ANY responsibility of ANY actions which may happen after using it in any other way than author's mark system.

Fortunately is not so.... =)


prolly would call, since after his turn xb i perceive his range bluff heavy. First why not to bet there all his value hands? 2nd Wont you at least consider bet ting there (lets say 1/2PSB maybe even 2/3PSB)to be a bluff? Q-scary? More like GREAT. wouldnt agro player bluff that card there? C'mon Wink



*"I HAVE TO BET THERE" - just a metter of sizing* would be 1st thing on my mind if i were him . I would prolly be quite happy to bet there (lol how it sounds Laugh - but you got me). QQ set since, well i was quite agressive... this board looks so..... bah lets bet 2/3 it looks bluffy also, lucky me Laugh - i would


*SHHHHHH inside devil, i know PSB would looks gr8 :D, but well easy, lets go 1/2PSB we dont know each other dont want to scarry his PP out, 1/2psb is most reasonable*..... Then clicking 2/3PSB and bettin...


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Ye this imagination makes me calling =)


GL guys
Posted 9 years ago
Pre and flop: Standard as you said.

Turn: I would interpret the check typically as weakness, but it's not impossible that he is checking back some AA/KK/QQ type hands here. QQ check back for deception and AA/KK checkback for pot control when the flush draw hits.

River: QQ, some flushes and potentially his overpair hands could play this way. I would assume he would not be going this large though with most of these hands which is just confusing the hell out of me. When I'm really confused about villains line and I have strong showdown value I usually end up calling and taking a note, when liens don't make sense there is always a decent possibility of a bluff so I don't think the call can ever be terrible, but we are probably going to be beat here quite often as well. Very awkward spot overall.
Posted 9 years ago
At this stakes, you can find a lot of info based on sizings.
Flop 1/2 bet is weak. I don;t think he will bet 1/2 with AA, KK, QQ.
When he checks behind turn probably he will try to go to showdown cheap - now he has showdown value but probably not a very strong hand.
You said he is pretty aggro. Probably you are against QTs, Q9s.
However I call river and put a note.

Posted 9 years ago
Everything looks standard until the river.

The first decision has to be whether or not we can value bet following villain's turn check. Given a standard 3 bet range BTN vs UTG there's nothing villain plays this way that we beat that can call any kind of a bet. So I agree with the check.

Some players disagree but in general if you don't beat any of villain's value range for betting then calling here is not going to be profitable. Micro stakes players don't bluff enough. It's also a factor that if he wants to bluff with AK AJ then he's always more likely to continue firing on the turn. Not to mention that he can slowplay QQ or pot control with KK+ assuming you can possibly have 4x.

It is exploitable to a degree to fold so easily, but at 10NL and without solid reads finding folds can save you a lot of money.