Nikola07: also as i high volume player, is there maybe a better choice for me than 888??
I don't have any recent experience from 888, but from what I have watched on vids and heard it is pretty soft. I think the challenge with that site, again from what I have heard, which
@Jon-PokerVIP has already alluded to, is that their bonus program is not that great. However, I don't really know for sure. At the micros we get hit pretty hard with the rake, so you need to have some good bonus opportunities to offset how much you are paying in rake. I think Microgaming(Betvictor and others) is one of the best for player up to 50NL. The reason is their rake cap. I think most sites you are paying about 5% rake, but the big difference between 2 sites like 888 and Betvictor is the cap. Betvictor caps at 3bb, so the most rake you will pay at 10NL is €0.30 versus 888 whose cap is $4.00. So when you look at an all in pot, your percentage on BV is around 1.5% cuz you hit the cap at around a €6.00 pot versus 888 where you will pay the full 5% in an all in pot. Also the rake back is important and I am not sure that 888's bonus program gives you that much in rake back. If you talk with
@Keri_PokerVIP you can get good rakeback on BV. For example, this week from the 5th of dec til yesterday I played 11K+ hands and paid €71 in rake, but I just cashed in the points from that time frame for €21 through the deal that this site offers. I don't think you would be getting that back on 888.
I played a lot on Party over the summer, but it was all on the fast fold variant. They had pretty decent deposit bonuses, but the problem is, if you want to trade the points in to get actual cash back you have to get to there gold level in their VIP system, which is 750 points, which equates to $375 in rake for one month. At 10nl I think that equated to playing about 1500 -2000 hands a day every day. Somewhere around 50K-60K hands in one month. So if you can't see yourself doing that, then you won't ever be able to trade the points in for cash, only tourney tickets and stuff like that. I can only speak about fast fold, but the other thing about them is that there are about 20-30 regs at 10NL who are fairly aggressive pre flop. If you find yourself having trouble with aggro 3bettors you won't like them. A few of them carry 3bet percentages overall of 12-15% and 3bet from the BU around 12-15% alone and from the blinds sometimes as high as 20%, some more than that. So you really have to work on your preflop ranges so that they are fairly balanced with 3bet calls, value 4bets and bluff 4bets, which will put you in a lot of spots you have never been in before and make it fairly uncomfortable. That being said, it isn't a bad thing. If you want to continue moving up, you are going to have to figure a lot of this stuff out at some point and doing it at 10NL is better than doing it at a higher stake.